Psyche, Nature & Cosmos: Interview with Stanislav Grof and Betsy Perluss.

Psyche, Nature and Cosmos (17 min.) from School of Lost Borders on Vimeo.

We want to thank Matt Anderson for giving us permission to share this interview, where Stanislav Grof and Betsy Perluss. speak about the nature and foundation of initiation. The interview was originally filmed as part on the film "FALL AND WINTER - A Survival Guide for the 21st Century" that Matt directed.

We do not go into the desert to escape

people but to learn how to find them:
we do not leave them in order to have

nothing more to do with them,
but to find out the way
to do them the most good.

Thomas Merton-